IBM 264786U-RB Thinkpad T20 Notebook PC - REFURBISHED

IBM 264786U-RB Thinkpad T20 Notebook PC - REFURBISHED
Manufacturer: IBM
Product Type: CE

Editorial Review:
Product Description
Protected by Titanium Composite covers, ThinkPad T Series notebooks are the lightest high performance mobile computers. These trim and light notebooks are powered by a blazing Intel processor, and a long-lasting battery, making them an ideal mobile computing solution for frequent travelers.Your fingers will never be tired as they lay down comfortably on the keyboard while you manipulate and access your software easily with the TrackPoint. The ThinkPad T series is optimized for connectivity and you stay on-line all the time. Whether you are on your way to a sales call across town or a business meeting across the continent, the ThinkPad T Series notebooks deliver a better experience.The IBM ThinkPad T20 succeeds the popular IBM ThinkPad 600 line. The ThinkPad T20 has a sleek form and optimal travel configurations. The titanium composite cover provides strength and durability.

Average customer rating: 3.0

keyboard terrible
Very nice but could have been designed better.

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Toshiba Satellite M65-S909 17" Notebook PC (Intel Pentium M Processor 760 (Centrino), 1024 MB RAM, 100 GB Hard Drive, DVD SuperMulti Drive)

Manufacturer: Toshiba
Product Group: Personal Computer
Binding: Personal Computers
ASIN: B000BM5IK4

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<b>Includes: 8-cell lithium-ion battery, AC adapter, & Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition.</b> Toshiba M65-S909 Satellite Notebook Computer - With a 17" widescreen TruBrite LCD, and a DVD+- Dual Layer Drive, this notebook PC gives you a multimedia experience that's hard to beat. The wide display is perfect for DVD movies, as well as allowing you to more easily work on multiple documents simultaneously. The DVD SuperMulti drive supports 11 different formats. So in addition to watching DVDs, you can make your own! You can also listen and create audio CDs, backup large amounts of files and much more. 1GB of DDR2 SDRAM 100GB 5400RPM HDD DVD+-RW Dual Layer Combination Drive - CD Write Speed - 24 X (CD,CD-R), CD Rewrite Speed - 4 X (CD,CD-R), CD-ROM Read Speed - 24 X (CD,CD-R), DVD Write Speed - 8 X (DVD, DVD-R), DVD Rewrite Speed - 4 X (DVD, DVD-R), DVD+R DL Speed - 8 X (DVD, DVD-R), DVD-RAM Speed - 4 X (DVD, DVD-R), DVD-ROM Read Speed - 8 X (DVD, DVD-R) 17 Widescreen TruBrite TFT Active-Matrix LCD Native Resolution - 1440 x 900 Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 with up to 128MB of shared memory (memory is taken from the main systems' RAM) Up to 4 hours and 45 minutes of battery life per charge Ports - 1 10/100 Ethernet, 1 RGB VGA, 1 S-Video Out, 1 Firewire, 3 USB 2.0, 1 External Microphone Jack, & 1 Headphone Jack Unit Dimensions - 15.5 x 11 x 1.5 Unit Weight - approx. 7.8 lbs.

Customer Reviews:

keyboard terrible.......2006-01-29

We purchased two of these computers and they are both the same. The keyboards are very hard to use. You have to hold the fingers almost 90 degrees to get the keys to work. I end up typing a message and then have to go through and fill in all the letters that the keyboard did not type. I sent mine back and got a Fujitsu it is great

Very nice but could have been designed better........2005-12-23

I recently got this laptop through my company. These are the pros and cons as I see them so far.

Pros:
1. When you can get a laptop with a 17 inch display for $1,500.00, it's a great deal. My boss actually bought another laptop as well for another coworker.
2. Keyboard has a numeric keypad on the right.
3. The display as mentioned in #1 is crisp and clean versus my old laptop. I love it.
4. Most 17" laptops are bulky but this model weighs about 7 pounds and has a very thin or slim design which I like. I usually work with this all day on my lap while sitting on my recliner and find it to be comfortable.
5. I am programmer and had to do various upgrades to the OS and add other programs for my setup. This went well and the more intense applications I run have performed flawlessly so far. I view the task manager to see how much memory is being consumed and am pleasantly suprised by how low it is. I could run multiple instances of visual interdev for instance and it wouldn't be a problem. I haven't tried gaming with it but I believe it would perform very well.
6. It comes with a dvd burner that burns a cd/dvd very quickly. Faster than my desktop.

Cons:
1. The right shift key was made too small for the keyboard. It is exactly a third of the size of the left shift key. It becomes annoying in the beginning because you will find yourself hitting the up arrow rather than the shift key causing you to type on the line above. You will get used to it after a few days but it's always maddening when you find yourself on the wrong line. There is no keyboard mapping utility at this point in time to make the up arrow toggle to shift key or vice versa. Also, their arrow keys are rather small and well duplicated as they also appear in the numeric keypad. I called tech support and told them there engineering dept. should be shot for incompetence. Tech support's response was that they would try to improve this for future models which really made me mad. Fix the issue now not later.
2. Other keyboard keys are stiff. You will find yourself typing along and missing a character or two because you didn't press firmly down. I am guessing this is like breaking in a pair of new shoes eventually it will go away.
3. Battery life - it appears that this battery will only last about an hour and a half or so. Their tech support says four. But I say differently. Not too big a deal for me but can be for a road warrior. You will need to have multiple batteries with you. It's a big confusing as the title of this laptop does says Centrino in it which I assumed incorrectly applied to their battery. HP Pavillions would probably be the way to go as they do use Centrino batteries and have laptops similar to this model.
4. Does not come with the option of getting Windows XP Professional already installed. You will need to get Windows XP Professional with SP2 if you are programmer like me for IIS, etc. Toshiba does not support Windows XP Pro but I experienced no issues after doing my upgrade.
5. This laptop is basically is mostly bare bones with the applications that come with it. You will need serial numbers for outlook, microsoft office 2003, etc. If you don't have them, be prepared to spend more $$$.

Overall, I believe that this will be a great laptop for what I need it to do. I am already getting used to the shift key and believe I will eventually "break" in the keyboard. It's a very good laptop but just missed being an awesome laptop because of the above issues. Hope that helps people.

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