Cage; Carter; Babbitt; Schuller

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The works on this fantastic disc are about as postmodern as you can get. These are the guys who either created movements or left them in their wake, and Maestro James Levine does a heroic job in making everything lucid. Carter's Variations for Orchestra (1956) has flirtations with tonality hinting at Roy Harris, of all people. The Gunther Schuller Spectra (1958) is more garrulous, more typical of today's group of young Scandinavian composers. The Babbitt is for string orchestra and synthesized tape, a one-of-a-kind 1967 composition that revels in its own peculiarity. The Cage is a quiet, giddy gem. --Paul Cook

Cage; Carter; Babbitt; Schuller, Music, Milton Babbitt, John Cage, Elliott Carter, Gunther Schuller, James Levine, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, 20th/21st Century Orchestral Music, 20th/21st Century Variations, Classical, Classical Music, Electronic/Computer/Tape Music, Orchestral
Cage; Carter; Babbitt; Schuller
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • An essential recording of four major - but hard to swallow - "progressive" American orchestral compositions
  • Great Carter Variations
  • Too bad it's out of print....
  • Outstanding Recording!
  • American music is too vast to have consistent committment
Cage; Carter; Babbitt; Schuller

Manufacturer: Polygram Records
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

Cage, JohnCage, John | ( C ) | Featured Composers, A-Z | Classical | Styles | Music
All Works by CarterAll Works by Carter | Carter, Elliott | ( C ) | Featured Composers, A-Z | Classical | Styles | Music
All Works by SchullerAll Works by Schuller | Schuller, Gunther | ( S ) | Featured Composers, A-Z | Classical | Styles | Music
Chamber MusicChamber Music | Forms & Genres | Modern, 20th, & 21st Century | Historical Periods | Classical | Styles | Music
VariationsVariations | Forms & Genres | Modern, 20th, & 21st Century | Historical Periods | Classical | Styles | Music
General ContemporaryGeneral Contemporary | Modern, 20th, & 21st Century | Historical Periods | Classical | Styles | Music
Levine, JamesLevine, James | ( L ) | Featured Performers, A-Z | Classical | Styles | Music
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ASIN: B000001GEW
Release Date: 1994-05-10

Amazon.com

The works on this fantastic disc are about as postmodern as you can get. These are the guys who either created movements or left them in their wake, and Maestro James Levine does a heroic job in making everything lucid. Carter's Variations for Orchestra (1956) has flirtations with tonality hinting at Roy Harris, of all people. The Gunther Schuller Spectra (1958) is more garrulous, more typical of today's group of young Scandinavian composers. The Babbitt is for string orchestra and synthesized tape, a one-of-a-kind 1967 composition that revels in its own peculiarity. The Cage is a quiet, giddy gem. --Paul Cook

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars An essential recording of four major - but hard to swallow - "progressive" American orchestral compositions.......2007-05-07

Lest you think some of the comments that follow are just sneer, let me point out that I consider this one of the most important discs devoted to the "progressive" or "advanced" (e.g., except for Cage, serial) trend in American music in the second half of the 20th century (as opposed to a more traditional current represented by composers such as Harris, Piston, Schuman, Mennin, Rorem - and I am not quite sure where to fit in Sessions): because it is played by one of the top world orchestras, led by one of the top world conductors and published by one of the top world classical music labels, and they all have lavished great care to bringing to the listener this demanding program in the best possible conditions of production and interpretation.

That said, for those who do not know what to expect with the music, be warned and beware: this is not accessible tonal music, full of lush, moving, alternately lyrical or dramatic melodies. These are compositions often hard to swallow, demanding, rarely seductive, that can be received by the unwelcoming listener as mere experiments with a "system" of given rules or constraints (but isn't it also the case with tonal music?), some of them bringing the accepted notions of what is "music" (the organization of sound following a certain set of rules?) to their limits.

And it gets worse as the program unfolds. Carter's 1955 Variations for Orchestra strongly recall Schoenberg's Variations opus 31 - even busier in orchestral activity, with each variation unfolding seamlessly into the next, but less seductive. The penultimate variation and Finale attain tremendous and awe-inspiring power. The different variations are indexed but not cued (I've never had a machine that could read index points), but the beginning time of each variation is conveniently given on the disc's back cover, so you can always spot where you are.

Schuller's 1958 "Spectra" goes one step further into sounding like the kind of serial music that was in vogue at Darmstadt and Donaueschingen in the 60s and 70s. It is certainly not "appealing" and seductive music, but it is full of musical events that constantly demand and together withhold the listener's attention. Is there a problem of Schuller lacking a personal voice? I think it is rather that he is composing within the strictures and confines of a given musical language, that give an air of similarity to every compositions that follow those rules, just as Mozart, Haydn and, say, Stamitz or Kraus might have an air of similarity within the rules of the classical language. Six years after this work Schuller reinvested the symphonic form, with his excellent Symphony 1965 (actually composed in '64), pouring into this old bottle the new beverage of serial music that had been considered inimical with it (see my review of American Orchestral Music).

To my ears Milton Babbitt belies the time-honored belief (shared both by the Ancient Greeks and Ancient Egyptians) that music is mathematics put into physical sounds. Babbitt - a mathematician before he became a composer - proves that when music is only mathematics, the music gets lost somewhere along the way. Babbitt is one to hold the view that, just as you do not expect the layman to understand the latest developments of modern maths, you can't and shouldn't expect but the most educated to grasp the efforts of the "informed musician" (his famous article "Who Cares if You Listen?" is available on the net). Well, Bach, who knew more than his share about mathematical relations turned to music, didn't think the same.

Cage's Atlas Eclipticalis, his first orchestral composition from 1961, doesn't follow the same compositional rules as the three other composers on this disc. It consists of a set of instrumental parts to be played (upon decision of the conductor, not the composer) in whole or part "in any ensemble, chamber or orchestra", each part being graphically derived using chance operations. Consequently, no performance is going to sound like the next one. Cage is really situated at the opposite pole from Babbitt: total absence of control versus total control. Yet, ironically, to me Atlas Eclipticalis it sounds like a minimalist version of Babbitt: random sounds, but less of them.

Fine notes, and great cover art. But why title the disc "Cage - Carter -Babbit - Schuller"? It corresponds neither to the alphabet, nor to the compositions dates, not to the composers' dates of birth, and also not to the order of the pieces on the disc. Well, maybe that's the logic, and a "Cagean" one at that: it was the only ordering that had NO logic.

5 out of 5 stars Great Carter Variations.......2005-10-01

I got to know the Carter Variations on a vinyl disc back in the 1960's and have loved them ever since. Levine has my gratitude for championing this work. He's even performed it at Carnegie Hall with the Met Opera Orchestra. This performance by the Chicago Symphony is brilliant.

5 out of 5 stars Too bad it's out of print...........2004-05-04

This is a really good CD! I owned a burned copy but liked the music so much I thought I would seek out the original. I would buy this disc solely for the last 6 minutes of the Variations for Orchestra. The CSO trombones really do a GREAT job in the soli that takes place in this section. They make a difficult part sound really easy. Other highlights from the Carter are: The Introduction and Theme, Variation III, and Variation VII. What I like best about this piece is that, even though it's an abstract musical language, Carter still makes emotion and drama the most important thing about the music. Listen to it a few times and you'll see what I mean. The Babbitt and Schuller also seem interesting, but I am not as familar with them so I will not comment.

I agree with a previous reviewer about the inclusion of the John Cage piece. It's an aleatoric work so, since it will sound different at each performance, a recording really doesn't serve the music's purpose. There are several other pieces that would have been better to include here.

5 out of 5 stars Outstanding Recording!.......2002-06-14

The Carter, Cage, Babbitt and Schuller are spectacularly colorful and vivid. This is great music that deserves its place in the cannon. Each composer is well represneted here - superb recording!

Especially of note here is the Carter Variations for Orchestra - A brilliant piece (terribly neglected!) wonderfully presented. Mr. Levine and DG are to be congratulated for making this music so easily available. Keep up the good work!

3 out of 5 stars American music is too vast to have consistent committment.......1999-04-05

The Carter "Variations" here is the meat and potatoes of orchestral music and Levine knows exactly what to do given his expertise in Romantic literature to which Carter has strong affinities. Solti brought this work on Tour many years ago, so Chicago knows this work well. I have never found Schuller an interesting composer. He really never developed a unique voice and this work although his most vigorous aside from his "Paul Klee Studies" is not representative of the American aesthetic repertoire, what it can be. Either you love everything Babbitt has done you he can leave you cold as ice. The problem is that Babbitt never really turned the corner into the orchestra, and it's not entirely his fault what opportunities are their even for the most distinguished of American composers to practice their craft. Babbitt's piano music is indeed more powerful. In the Cage I always feel the orchestra( behind their smug grins) are snickering at Cage. And given the fact that how often do they actually perform Cage, any performance is idle chatter, not a serious affair, for a composer I doubt if they take all that seriously. They don't need to, their bread is not buttered on that side. So another American genius as Cage is left in neglect .Aside from the Carter I cannot find anything exciting here, and Levine seems to be just going through the motions. I would have chosen Feldman rather than Cage. Feldman has more an aesthetic in tune with Levine's traditional perspective or more on point, Wolpe as well or how about neglected Ralph Shapey. Levine needs to do his homework more so to serve himsefl and us listeners more and what he is good at.

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